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Holden, M.D.,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=0.0,11.0"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"held in San Francisco during the 34th Annual Convention and Scientific Assembly of the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=11.0,15.04"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"American Academy of Family Physicians, October 4 through 7, 1982. Dr. Michelson was president","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=15.04,21.54"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the AAFP in 1964-65, a charter ABFP board member, and a member of the FHFA Board of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=21.54,28.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Trustees until 1982. Dr. Holden was president of the AAFP in 1974-75 and currently is vice","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=28.799,36.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"president of the FHFA Board of Trustees.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=36.799,39.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Good morning. I'm Dr. Herbert Holden of San Leandro, California. I was elected to the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=47.799,55.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Board of Directors of the American Academy of Family Physicians in 1970, and I became","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=55.799,62.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"president-elect of the Academy in 1973. I became president in 1974. It's a pleasure","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=62.799,72.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this morning to interview and talk with Dr. Julius Michelson of Foley, Alabama. Dr. Michelson","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=72.8,80.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"preceded me on the Board by ten years. He was first elected to the Board in 1960, and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=80.8,89.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he became president of the Academy in 1964. Mike, I'm looking forward to visiting with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=89.8,97.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you. You have always been an articulate, effective spokesman for family practice, and I know","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=97.8,105.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you will have some interesting things to tell us. What's your first memory of contact","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=105.8,114.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with the Academy of General Practices that was known in those days? When did you first","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=114.8,120.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hear of this organization?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=120.8,122.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, Herb, I think the first thing that I heard about the Academy of General Practice","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=122.8,130.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was from the executive director of our state medical association. It took a year or so","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=130.8,138.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for the good news to filter down to the wilds of Alabama, and there was a country doctor","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=138.8,145.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by the name of John Paul Jones, who was the chairman board of trustees of the medical","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=145.8,151.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"association in the state of Alabama at that time, and he got wind of this new movement","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=151.8,158.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the good news, and being an activist, if you will, in those days, he had his executive","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=158.8,170.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"secretary, executive director, recruit some eager young doctors around the state of Alabama,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=170.8,178.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and as I recall, we had a meeting in Montgomery, Alabama, and Bill Dozier brought a piece of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=178.8,184.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"paper over to me, and he says, here, sign this, and this was in 1949, so I signed it,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=184.8,190.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I was a member of the Academy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=190.8,194.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Would you say you were a joiner? Someone hands you a piece of paper, and you sign, and this,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=194.8,201.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"oh, I think in those days, I just did whatever Bill Dozier asked me to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=201.8,205.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I see, okay. What concept might you have had, or did you have any concept at that time","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=205.8,213.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of a problem in general practice? Did you feel that there was a great need for some","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=213.8,219.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"national organization to solve the problems of the general physician?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=219.8,224.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, Herbert, at that time, I was naive enough to believe that there weren't that many problems","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=224.8,234.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the medical world. In fact, I didn't know much about the medical world, and as far as","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=234.8,239.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hospital privileges were concerned, I worked for a while in a small hospital in Fairhope, Alabama,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=239.8,246.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I did surgery and delivered babies, and I was on staff at Providence Hospital in Mobile,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=246.8,252.8"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I had no real problems with my colleagues or peers, so I could see no real need for","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=252.8,260.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a national organization. But as time marched on, and as I began to find out that there was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=260.799,269.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"such a thing as an AMA and an Academy, and that there were problems in the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=269.799,275.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You went into 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state?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=365.799,369.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did you have a desire to get involved nationally?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=369.799,373.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What led you to this decision?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=373.799,375.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Herbert, I can truthfully say I had no desire to become involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=375.799,379.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was just there, and I'd been a delegate for six 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unusual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=467.799,476.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then as president, elected president, and past president, of course, and then I was treasurer for many years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=476.799,484.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think you were treasurer for 5 1⁄2 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time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=505.799,512.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, Herb, I have to tell you in all sincerity, I did not seek that position, nor have I really sought any of these positions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=512.799,520.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it was at a meeting in 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about 1960, when you began your career on the board?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=570.799,582.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I have an idea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=582.799,585.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know how accurate my figures will be, but one little anecdote that I'd like to 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54,000.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=692.799,694.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Do you think in those early days, it's hard to project 20 years ahead, but did you or the other leaders in the Academy have any concept of what this organization would 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the specialty of family practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=795.799,804.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Before we get into that, though, in 1969, it was family practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=805.799,811.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You remember the problems of the change of name from general 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name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=822.799,824.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I had some mixed feelings about the change of name from general practice to family practice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=824.799,831.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, I was a general practitioner and a member of 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My father before me was a general practitioner, and I will not rear my son to be an F.P.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=864.799,873.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As time came along, I saw the wisdom in the name change.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=880.799,887.799"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And as I 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We can't stand on the status quo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1593.809,1599.809"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have to develop and go ahead and change with the times.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1599.809,1603.809"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, Herb, I heartily concur with 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people,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1643.809,1654.809"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or all of the people that I have known in the Congress and on the Board,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1654.809,1658.809"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have not been the issues with the College of Surgeons or with this group or that group.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1658.809,1664.809"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But every one of them's basic concern has been with their patients and the care that the patients get.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1664.809,1673.809"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this is what has motivated me, and I 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patients.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1681.809,1689.809"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that's been a secret of the success of the Academy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1689.809,1692.809"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have been spokesmen and advocates for the patient,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1692.809,1696.809"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and that has been more important even than the perpetuation of our own medical group.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1696.809,1704.809"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let's change subject a little 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fundraising and decisions about that building?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1718.809,1723.809"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Indeed I was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1723.809,1726.809"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The building that is—Al Ritt, a former treasurer and former president,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1726.809,1732.809"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was instrumental in raising the money to acquire that building.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1732.809,1740.809"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I've forgotten who we purchased the building from, but it was, as I recall, an 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That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1847.819,1849.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, we've mentioned that after you were going through the chairs as an officer of the Academy,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1849.819,1856.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you were the treasurer of the Academy for some five-and-a-half years until about 1971, I believe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1856.819,1867.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And during this interval, I think you probably first became involved in the Family Health Foundation of America.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1867.819,1876.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Do you have an idea about when that may have been?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1876.819,1881.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, I became involved with the foundation, as I recall, before that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1881.819,1889.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let me see. I was elected to the foundation in 1964.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1889.819,1895.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. I was on the foundation for—I just completed my 18th year on the foundation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1895.819,1902.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You have been president of the foundation for some five or six years, I believe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1902.819,1910.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Five or six. I don't really remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1910.819,1912.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You saw tremendous growth and change there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1912.819,1915.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, indeed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1915.819,1916.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You have been a key figure and officer in the Academy and the certifying board and in the Family Health Foundation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1917.819,1926.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That about covers the field, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1926.819,1929.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I like to think I may have contributed a little bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1929.819,1936.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You certainly have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1936.819,1937.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What about the foundation? What was the original concept in that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1937.819,1942.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did it start with just a very minimal goal,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1943.819,1947.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or was it envisioned that it would be a large fund that would support family practice activities?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1947.819,1955.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think when the foundation was originally formulated—and here again, it was the legal, legal Mac Cahill idea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=1955.819,1968.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think the 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Herb.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=2036.819,2039.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"With the limited funds that the foundation had in the early days,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=2039.819,2043.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one of our major projects was to fund—well, to give seed money to universities to 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reminisce about these changes, developments in the academy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=2204.819,2211.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I certainly congratulate you on your outstanding leadership, your ability to help in committee organization and committee 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you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=2227.819,2228.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Congratulations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=2228.819,2229.819"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank 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mine?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=3836.839,3839.839"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/753","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think we're protecting our future by doing the things we're doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720#t=3839.839,3842.839"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/106898/file/207720/transcript/68588/annotation/754","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other words, let me say 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