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Lewis \u0026 Clark: Good morning. How are you?\n\nPhyl Naragon: I am just fine. For the record, would you please indicate that you have given permission for me to conduct this oral history of you via WebEx.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: Yes I have. I believe you should have that in your files, I forwarded to you a few days ago.\n\nPhyl Naragon: Yes. I have received the consent form, so thanks very much.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: You're welcome.\n\nPhyl Naragon: All right. Let's get started. Evelyn, where do you currently work and what is your title?\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: I right now work with a company I co-founded called Warrior Centric Health, and my title with that company is chief medical officer.\n\nPhyl Naragon: So tell me a little bit about the organization.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: Sure. It was founded about 13 or some years ago, pretty much when we were in the height of the Iraq and Afghanistan conflict, and I had got a call from a friend of mine, colleague of mine that I worked with when I worked at Pfizer Pharmaceuticals after my retirement from the military. He was not a clinician, he was in sales and I had a role in terms of some of the education for sales force in and around patients on their approach to clinicians, health disparities, those kinds of things. So we got to know each other pretty well.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: He and his wife both worked there and were West Point grads. But he called me up, we had both left at this time, he called me up and he asked me had I seen the headlines of the Washington Post, and there was a story in there about an issue they were having at Walter Reed where a number of the soldiers and others who had returned who were being treated there felt like they were not being treated appropriately, or that their needs weren't being met, and he asked me if I thought anything was there. So I told him to give me a little bit of time to look deeper into it, so I did that, and looked further into a number of our other conflicts in regards to some of the things that were being talked about, and when I got back with him and I said to him, \"I think there may be something here.\" There were some issues obviously around PTSD, traumatic brain injury, all of the also physical injury to return with, because it was a different conflict than we had been in before.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: So the long and short of that was yes, we found some things that indicated there may be something missing from this side to this side, there may need to be something to bridge that gap in terms of the care that they were receiving. So we proceeded to conduct a lot of focus groups with the patients, with their families, the clinicians who were caring for them, with the leadership there, and we did it at several bases. What was National Naval Medical Center, the old Walter Reed, Fort Lee, et cetera. And what we came to find out was yes, there was this thing where the clinicians, nurses, doctors, et cetera, felt that they were there trying to do what they thought was needed, yet a number of folks receiving that care felt that it didn't meet their needs. So we felt that there was an opportunity to create education, training, et cetera, around that, that could indeed bridge that gap.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: So it became known as Warrior Centric Healthcare training and the mantra for that was you must know me to treat me, because a part of it was missing it seemed as though even though a lot of those clinicians were in military facilities, a part of DOD, a lot of them were still civilians even those who were in a uniform, because you can get all kinds of contracts, et cetera, where you're trying to pay off your educational debt, and you can sign up for the military, get bonuses, et cetera, to help with that, but you're a civilian. You just put the uniform, yes you'll be learning about the military, but you don't know at that point.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: So [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/162454/file/295884#t=0.0,292.0"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/162454/file/295884/transcript/85521/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] would allow for that gap in terms of I need this, you don't really know who I am and so therefore you're not providing the type of treatment I need. So that's the basis of the company, and as the chief medical officer I was the one primarily engaged in creating the content for those modules and I did that again through a number of different focus groups, primarily with psychiatrists, psychologists, primary care, et cetera. Getting their input and getting input again from those who would be receiving that care, and we started out with a core group of modular content. One was military culture, the other cultural competence in the clinical setting, patient provider communication, and the biology of PTSD and TBI.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And we focused on those two clinical issues because PTSD has long been a consequence of war, and the RAND Corporation did a study that was asked for, requested by congress to look into the Iraq Afghanistan conflict to find out what things we would need to be ready for. What would we need to be educating clinicians about, would we need special treatment centers set up, all of those kinds of things. That report was done, and that we use, we read it line by line, over and over again, and it became a framework for the work that we did. So it was evidence [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/162454/file/295884#t=292.0,406.0"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/162454/file/295884/transcript/85521/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] because we literally didn't create something we thought was really necessary by the feedback we got from the focus groups and from the research the RAND Corporation had done.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: In fact we spoke with the lead researcher who did that report. And it was funny because she says, as we're talking to her about it, she says, \"You'll actually read it.\" And we said, \"Yes, we've read it several times.\" And so we maintained a relationship with her over the course of time, and now she just recently left RAND is now a special assistant to President Biden. So she has done quite a bit of work along the way. And so that's the course of the company\n\nPhyl Naragon: Kudos to you. So let's go back in history now, we talked about the present. When and where were you born?\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: Well, I was born 1956, August 4th in Wilmington, North Carolina. And I don't remember a lot about that, about Wilmington because I didn't really grow up there. I think we left there at a very young age and then moved to Tampa, Florida. So that's what I mostly remember is growing up in Tampa, Florida, all of our other relatives were there, grandmother, aunts, uncles, cousins, that sort of thing. So.\n\nPhyl Naragon: Yeah. I was going to ask you to tell me about your family and you already started to do that just a little bit. So tell me about your family?\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: Sure. I guess I'll start from where I am now and work backwards a little bit. I'm married to Carl Clark which is always an interesting story in and of itself. People often say to me, \"How did you get the last name of Lewis and Clark?\" And I tell my last name was Lewis. His was Clark. We met at Northwest and the expedition began. And so then he's now been about 21 years or so ago. So that's how he came into my life. We actually met in Bremerton, Washington where I was stationed at the time. In terms of cousins, brothers, sisters, et cetera. I have one brother, he is three years younger than I am. He also has quite a story, military history. I served 25 years. He served 28. He retired as a command sergeant major.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: My sister-in-law did 20. She retired as a sergeant major. And by the way, Carl also was even in the Navy, I believe for about eight or 10 years. He was out by the time that I met him, but he did about 10 years. And so my brother and sister-in-law have two niece two kids together. Two girls, well, they're young women now, but two girls. And he was married before and out of the first marriage. I have one nephew and two nieces and now some grand nieces as my brother's also a grandfather several times over these days. So it's quite a family. There are lots of cousins, as you might imagine. All of my aunts are deceased. Unfortunately the youngest of the five was the first to pass away. She had hypertension and died in her '30s, actually.\n\nPhyl Naragon: Oh, my gosh.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: Then there of course is my parents. My mother was a nurse. Father was a physician, known as a general practitioner in those days. And he had two nurses who worked in his office. My mother was one of them, so he had two nurses and administrator, secretary type. And that's where we would go after school, every day we'd go to his office. And then in his office while he was seeing patients, we would do our homework and what have you. It wasn't every single day, but the vast majority of the time we did that there. But that's what I grew up around. Medicine itself, oftentimes while being at the office patients, obviously we got to know a lot of them because they see us there and they knew who we were and oftentimes I'd get to go in the room and see what he was doing how he was doing it. Patients would talk to me, et cetera.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And I just remembered how they felt about him, the exchange that I saw between them when he was doing his work and they were receiving that care and thought, boy, I want to do that because it just makes you feel good. You're helping people, but not only are you helping people, it really makes you feel good to be able to do that. And so I think that that was the beginning of what I said, \"This is what I want to do.\" So while both parents are gone, all of the aunts are gone, uncles. I still have some cousins in Florida and other family in-laws actually live in Sarasota.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And I mentioned that I met Carl at Bremerton, Washington, which is always very interesting because Sarasota is 45 minutes from Tampa. So we actually grew up 45 minutes from each other and that not knowing that at all. And so most of his family are still in Sarasota's Phil. When we go back to Florida, we go to both places and get to see a lot of folks there.\n\nPhyl Naragon: That's great. You talked about really how you develop this interest in family medicine. Again, your father was a GP, where did you attend college and then residency?\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: A friend of my mother's daughter wanted to go into nursing and she attended Spelman College. So she was a few years ahead of me. And when I was looking at colleges we got together and we were talking about different schools, et cetera. And she spoke very highly of Spelman College. And so looked into that and it is an HBCU. And so I became very, very interested and ultimately applied and attended Spelman College. It was probably one of the best decisions I've ever made. I have had just a tremendous sense of gratitude for having gone there. In fact Dr. Rena Jones, who was head of the Biology Department and was my biology instructor. We're still in contact with each other. I mean, she followed me after I left there all through the military, all through medical school.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: We've continued to keep in touch, et cetera. When I would go back after graduation, certain professors would be around, et cetera. I remember one evening, two of us who attended the Spelman were in the same class, walking down one of the hallways. We looked at one of the rooms and one of the professors was there Dr. Faulkner. And we both looked in and she taught calculus and we walked, looked in and we said, \"Hi, Dr. Faulkner, we know you probably don't remember us.\" She not only remembered us. She could tell us how we were in her class and this is years after we graduated.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: So it was that kind of place. It was also probably the first educational setting where I wasn't in the minority. It was just a tremendous feeling to be in a place where you saw folks like yourself who were educated and doing things and smart, and brilliant. Yeah. I mean, I had my own role models, if you will, but just to see folks your own age like that doing things who were excited about learning, all of those kinds of things it was just really, as I mentioned, very rewarding and tremendous experience.\n\nPhyl Naragon: Yeah, absolutely. Evelyn, for those who may not know, tell me what HBCU stands for?\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: Yeah. Historically Black College and Universities. And most people are pretty familiar with Spelman and Morehouse, Howard. Those are a few of the bigger ones. Bennett gets a lot of recognition. It's a smaller one, but they're all throughout the U.S. and many of them struggle obviously because of funding and what have you. But there are a lot of people who are very interested in trying to ensure they continue to exist because of what they contribute to society, so.\n\nPhyl Naragon: Absolutely. Residency, where did you attend residency?\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: I attended residency at the Naval Hospital, Jacksonville, Florida. I was looking for a place that was... But when you talk about residency and we think about the match, if you will. So while I was at Spelman, obviously when you're graduating and you want to go to medical school you begin to think about how you're gonna pay for that. And so those are the things that were running through my mind and many people when I start to talk about this would say, \"Well, your father was a doctor. Your mother was a nurse. You surely had some things lined up and financing would not have been much of an issue for you.\" But I said, well, that's true. If medical schools would accept my cooking dinner for them, or doing certain things for them, because that's oftentimes how my parents got paid for taking care of their patients.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And so I knew that I would need to step up and do something. I was not looking for them to take care of that. And so people often ask me how I decided on the navy. I said, well, I was in the cafeteria eating lunch and when I came out, there was a navy recruiter sitting across from that door. And I walked up and talked to him. Of course, I've heard about the Health Professions Scholarship that the military had. But it was a Navy guy sitting there. So I asked him about all of the information, got all of that, and began to do those applications for a number of different things. Some other funding that was available, but was very much interested in that, because that was a scholarship that paid your tuition, gave you a stipend to live on reimburse you for your books.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And so I knew that, that could do that. And for every year they paid for, you owed a year of service. And so I was like, that's fine. They paid for four years, you do four years, you get out, you go about your business. And so that was my plan. If I got it. As the story goes, I did get a navy scholarship, Health Professions Scholarship for medical school. And so I looked at it at the time as a means to an end. Okay. They would pay for school, while we get out, I would do my service, whatever that involved and didn't get out and then do whatever I wanted to do in medicine. But by the time it was time for internship and residency. I realized that I really wanted a military internship and residency, and the reason was one because they paid more.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: But secondly, because of the type of experience you could get. Okay? When I looked at the glues match time, obviously I participated in that, but the military, when you get one of those scholarships, you are obligated to apply to their residency programs. They're not obligated to accept you, but you're obligated to apply. So their matches actually held earlier than the March, I believe, 17 or March madness around internships was done. At that time, as I mentioned, I won it once. So I applied for the program at Naval Hospital Jacks because it wasn't far from Tampa. And I could go when I needed a break and go home and check on my mother and all that sort of thing. So I applied for it and was fortunate enough to get it. And so I was very happy about that because, like I said, the payment differential was significant.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: Yeah, in those days it was probably maybe 20K, between 15 and 20 K depending on where the program was in the civilian sector for family medicine. But within the military, you got paid according to your rank because you were in uniform, that was your job. And so you got a salary of money that was significantly higher at that time. I believe it was around 30K. And so it was-\n\nPhyl Naragon: That's significant.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: Yes, it was very significant. And the other piece that was significant was the experience. In those days there was what we refer to as the turf battles, where folks in family medicine were having a hard time in the OB arena, having the ability to deliver babies because OB felt like that was their lane and their specialty. And we could stay on the sidelines, but we were not to be on center court. However, in the military, it was much different. If you showed the interest in the aptitude, OB became your biggest friend. So there were two of us, Julia Robinson, another person who trained at the same time I did. And we both were very, very interested in OB loved it, just loved it. And so we would study it and we would talk about it every chance we got we'd be up on LED working with obstetricians or what have you.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And we got to a point where we got to do all of those procedures and not just assist them at a point in time, they were assisting us. So we were doing C-sections and all of those kinds of things. So you really got the full scope of family medicine practice, if you will being in the military and doing your residency there. So that's why I enjoyed it so much is because of that. So when I left there, I you felt very confident about your ability to be a full scope family physician, not that you couldn't in other residency's, but I definitely felt that when I left there.\n\nPhyl Naragon: Would you consider that one of the high points?\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: Absolutely. Yes. I can't tell you how many, I don't remember exactly how many I delivered right in residency, but it was probably three times, four times more what my colleagues did, who trained in the civilian sector.\n\nPhyl Naragon: Wow. That's great. When you look at your time as a military physician, what were the high points of that career and your career span at a number of years? So talk high points, and then let's talk low points.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: High points were gosh, just about every day. I mean, I loved being in the military, so when I decided to go into medicine, but the reason I decided to do that, like I said, was from my parents, from seeing what they were doing, from seeing what others were doing. But I thought that, okay, I'll go in the military, get my education paid for, get out. And then I could do that. I never thought I would actually get to do the medicine I thought I wanted to do while in the military. I was thinking helping the underserved, those who couldn't get the care they needed because they couldn't afford it and all those kinds of things. And what a lot of people don't recognize is that we have those sub categories of people within the military to primarily in the enlisted population.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: For instance, sometimes when I'd spoken with people about my time at the Uniformed Services University in Bethesda, Maryland. So the Bethesda is a very expensive place to live. That whole area is DC, Washington, Virginia. It's still, when you are mid-level junior enlisted and sometimes even a little bit higher, you don't make enough money to do that. So we would have people in the military wear a uniform who were on food stamps. You have people who get married for convenience sake because the benefits you get are much better than you as an individual. And so it was a way of doing what I look to do, but it was in uniform because again, most the vast majority of health professional scholarship recipients do exactly that. They get their school paid for. They pay their time back and they get out okay?\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: It was 25 years later before I remember it. Oh yeah. I was supposed to be getting out. So the high points were just all over the place. It was caring for the kids, the parents, the parents of the parents, the soldiers and sailors and airmen and Marines themselves, sitting with folks and someone was lost in their family because of being in a conflict when they had to be deployed, particularly when we had young kids who were married with young children, and now the husband, primarily at that time, it was mostly the men being deployed. There were also women obviously, but the vast majority were men who were being deployed. Seeing and hearing what they were going through. You were there to do what family docs were groomed to do.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: Okay. And so it allowed me to really do that to really practice and be that full scope family doc to the point where you became a member of their family, to a certain extent. A lot of it depended on where you were located. When I went to Okinawa, for instance that's a small Island, so we get typhoons there as opposed to hurricanes or different things would be happening. People knew you, you go to the grocery store folks, \"Hi, how you doing,\" dark and they stop. And they tell you what's going on in their family and knew everybody's names. And so to some people, it might've felt like it was good, but to me, it was just part of being a part of the family.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And that was just always the good part about that. The low points were sometimes counter to the good. So you knew those families and you interacted with them and you were almost considered a part of their family when there was a loss. It was that much harder because it wasn't just someone died in his family over here. It was almost like someone passed away or was injured or hurt in your own family. One instance, I was at the camp cancer clinic in Okinawa, doing my regular clinic time and get some folks rushing in \"Doc we need, you could have been riding his bike and got hit by a car.\" So when you do all of what you can to get them out, get them ready. They took him down to the hospital, but he passed away.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And so doing those kinds of things that really hurt because not only are you a part of their family, but it's a very small community over in Okinawa, it's a small Island in and of itself, so it's a very small community there. So those kinds of losses we're even harder in those kinds of places. But again, you got to do some tremendous things. I'll go high and low here. So low points went back to high points when being in the military allowed me to do one of the things I enjoy most, and that was travel. I don't know where it came from. I do remember that my fourth year in medical school, I thought about doing an a way elective. And so I didn't want to just do an a way elective in another state. I went to another country.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: So I looked through the book, they had a book of different places you could go. And I looked at and finally settled on the Royal Northern Hospital in London, England. And so I went over there for six weeks working in a primary care settings. There were a number of students there from all other countries. And so going on what we call rounds was being a part of the UN because even the students from all over the world and we would have our conversations. And one of the things I've never forgotten is I was describing a day in my surgical rotation where we got up, we got to the hospital about 5:00. We did our rounds before the surgeon came in and you did rounds together. So that you'd know all the information about your patients. By the time you were rounding with your attending, and you can put that information out.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And so you do those rounds, then you are about to the rest of the business of the day. And so I had several of look minute, I said, \"Well, if you guys start 5:00 and what did you do the rest of the day?\" I thought about that, but we do what we have to start at 5:00 in the morning, but what can I say? There were all these differences, but that was the beginning of my travel bug if you will. And after I finished that six weeks up, a couple of friends from college from Spelman came over and we did a Eurail pass for a couple of weeks around Europe. And so that was the beginning of my loving travel and an interest in other cultures. And so that the military that maybe a lot of meeting more of that.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: So I mentioned my time in Okinawa. And so when I was there, it was going to Korea going, just all over the place. And I've continued that during my time in the military and since my retirement and I can say that I've been to more countries than I have states in the U.S. and so it's been just really enriching to be able to do that and see other cultures and see people, talk with them, get an understanding of who they are and why they do things the way they do things. So those are a mixture of the highs and lows. But all in all, it was more high than low by far.\n\nPhyl Naragon: Yeah, it definitely sounds that way. Let's shift gears a bit. How did you first get involved with the foundation?\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: Let me see. I knew that it existed. Okay? But hadn't really had a lot of interaction with it. You get things in the mail for donations, et cetera. And I would do some of that, but really didn't have any true involvement with it until my time at Pfizer. So once I retired, I mentioned, I went to work at Pfizer Pharmaceuticals, and I was there for about seven years. And one of the other colleagues of mine there Candis, was on the board, I guess, one of the corporate members, she represented Pfizer. So she was one of the corporate members there. And so we'd talk about it every now and then, because we were friends at Pfizer.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: So we talk about some things every now and then about what the board was doing. And so when it was her time to rotate off, she says, \"Will you mind if I recommend you as someone to be on the board?\" I was like, \"Well, I guess,\" because I had really never given it any real thought. And so she did, and that's how I became a board member from her recommending me writing the letter, et cetera, getting to speak with people there. So that's how I became a board member initially.\n\nPhyl Naragon: You went from that and evidently at some point in time, you made the decision to move into the officer track. So why did you decide that?\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: Well that's interesting. I can't even remember how many years I was on the board before actually doing that, but being on the board with my interest in research, because I been the director when I was at Uniformed Services University, I served as the chair of the Research Committee for the Uniformed services chapter of the AFP. So I been in that environment for a while. And so when came to the board there were different committees and the Research Committee was one of them. So I worked on that committee for a while and then became the chair of that committee and served in that capacity for a while. And we would have to obviously report back to the board, the different awards we'd made for people submitting proposals, et cetera.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: So I got to know a few other people on the board and in terms of the work that we were doing and began to get more and more interested in that work. But really actually didn't think about the officer track. I like getting my hands and into things. And so I wasn't really thinking about that. And one of the deterrent for me was the way the process was, you served, everything was two years then. And I think to get on the office with track, you served two years as the treasurer or something. And I hear though folks giving their report, et cetera. And I think to myself, \"What are they talking about?\" It was never really clear. And it seemed as though either the staff from the AFP or others really fed in more to the report, then the folks who were treasurer for the organization, so that part never really came together for me.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And I never really understood how it worked. And so I don't like to be, I don't really understand them or I feel like I'm not contributing my part. And so that was a bit of a deterrent for me. And I wasn't needing to do that. So I was good doing what I was doing, but I was as you know the foundation was doing work in Haiti and I would go on those delegations. And so with the president of the foundation, that would be one of the folks who would be a part of that. And so when Mary Jo Welker, Dr. Welker was there we got to have various conversations around what we were doing in Haiti and some other things. And she was actually the one who suggested, and then encouraged me to think about being a part of the leadership of the foundation.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And so we continued that, she actually looked at it evaluated how things would change around the foundation, voted on that, and it was supported. And so, again, it was through her encouragement and suggestion that I finally went and became a part of the leadership of the organization. I'm not so sure that, that would have happened if we hadn't had the types of conversations that we had.\n\nPhyl Naragon: Yeah. Do you recall what year you were the foundation president?\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: I did before. So when I looked at these questions just this morning, again, I thought, oh, I better look that up. So it looks like it was 2016.\n\nPhyl Naragon: In 2016. All right. If it's about the highlights in your career. What was the highlight of your presidential year?\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: Ooh again, I think if I were to try to pinpoint something like that, it would be at that time we had the corporate circle, I believe, and we had a particular meeting for industry and others. And as the foundation president, you had a major role in that in terms of speaking with folks and interacting with them, being a part of that specific gathering, if you will. I think that was one of them. And I think a part of that was because of I'd had some experience in industry before from working with Pfizer, knowing them and not everyone considers industry, the best partner. In fact, when clinicians go and work in organizations like that, you're always accused of going to the dark side. I tell them it's all about bringing in lights so don't talk to me about that.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: But that integration in finding out a good spot for both organizations, for both industry and the work that the foundation does, and there is a sweet spot there. And so being a part of helping us get closer there helping us find additional ways in which we could do the work of the foundation and have them get out of it, what they needed to, because they also needed to achieve things for their organization. And so finding a way for those things to meet, because in doing that, I've continued that process, even as long after that I still do partnerships with industry around foundation work because not only the co-found where Cedric Health, I [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/162454/file/295884#t=406.0,2464.0"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/162454/file/295884/transcript/85521/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] did the same thing around the foundation myself. So I am the president and chair of the Veteran Health and Wellness Foundation.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And so I work with industry. Like I worked with industry there to look at how I can get them to help me help veterans, and yet help them accomplish the things I need to do too. So the foundation was a very high point in terms of refining my ability to understand even more how to do that or how to accomplish those things. It was a high point in the type of work that we do around education, around research, around family medicine caring in an international setting with the trips to Haiti. Those are some phenomenal times. And so unfortunately in the last, I believe three times, we have not been able to go do [inaudible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/162454/file/295884#t=2464.0,2526.0"},{"id":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/162454/file/295884/transcript/85521/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"] to their folks. I guess the foundation is looking for other partners, but that too, again, with the travel that I mentioned, the rewards of meeting other people, engaging in other cultures and understanding people at much deeper levels has continued.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And so I'm working with another colleague of mine on a project in Rwanda for the refugees there who are in camps. And in terms of how do we look at community health workers and educating them at three different levels. A set of volunteers who are boots on the ground within the camp, who can go around with a bit of knowledge about, \"Oh, I think I need to get you to see one of the trainers.\" Okay. That's a medium level where they would have additional knowledge about hypertension, diabetes, non-communicable diseases is the area I am working in with this.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And then that trend, it would provide different out of the camps. And then there's also the level one person who a trainer who'd been trained, those trainings. Looking at that step wise project of getting this information out to those folks in the refugee camps, so that not only can we treat it and hopefully manage things like hypertension and diabetes and respiratory conditions, et cetera, but prevent them from getting bad, prevent them from happening those kinds of things. And so again, the work and the foundation of the things that we did in Haiti, is spilling over to other projects that I work on that involve other countries I think.\n\nPhyl Naragon: Yeah. Evelyn, excuse me, unlike a lot of presidents, you have continued to volunteer your time with the foundation. Why?\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: Well, I think of it as a commitment, it's something I'm committed to. It wasn't just something I did. I pass through the ranks. I did the Research Committee with a member of the board within the leadership track and now on and off to other things. Things that I engage in or at least I try to engage in are for purpose for me, if you will. They got to be purposeful. Otherwise the work is really work. The things that I did with the foundation and continue to do with the foundation, I don't look at it as work. The things I do with the Veterans Health and Wellness Foundation, I don't look at that as work. The things I do at Warrior Centric Health in terms of continuing to try to educate clinicians about veterans in their care, understanding who they are and some of what their unique healthcare needs are so that you can really impact their health outcome.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: So to me, it's not work the way we think of work, yes, it's tired sometimes it can be long hours and you have to do things over and over and over again, and you can get frustrated and all of those kinds of things. But to me, it's purposeful work. And so it's a bit of a difference there. So that's why I've continued to stay involved in the AFP Foundation does good work. And one of the other reasons I can honestly say I've stayed involved is because a year my relationship with you across the time for being in the foundation has just again, been truly one of the highlights and-\n\nPhyl Naragon: Thank you.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: ... working with, yeah, I'm serious. Working with you, looking at who you are and understand. I think I probably did the bulk of the first part of the work is when you were with the NRN doing work with the National Research Network. And so that's how we began to, we would involve a few projects, et cetera. So I got to know you and what have you. And so it's been over a span of years that we've known each other. And you've been one of those people who were part of that foundation who had a true purpose for being there. It wasn't just something you did. It wasn't just another assignment you were engaged. You were intimately involved with the work that they did there, and that was important to you, and you could tell it was important.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And so that's another part of why people stay involved because I mean, there were all kinds of personalities, shall we say that were part of that organization that could easily push people away. And you say, \"Well, I'm going to do my time. And then that will be over and I'll move on.\" But there are some that are strong enough personalities in a positive way that regardless of what else is going on, that you remain apart, you remain engaged and you continue to participate. And so they were very, very fortunate to have you as that person, at least who kept me honestly, wanting to be engaged in that process, so.\n\nPhyl Naragon: Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate your kind words. As we near the end of this interview. Is there anything that we haven't discussed that you would like to talk about?\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: I don't know. I think we've probably at least touched on most things. Even if we haven't gone into detail about them, but again, I would encourage folks and even the foundation, as we find another partner to do the Family Medicine Cares International piece that we put as much time into that and pushing it out that we do in our educational programs, et cetera, because where we live and where we exist is very complex these days, even more so I think, than it's ever been. And the understanding of who people are, who aren't us, who don't look like us, who don't do like we do, who don't dress like we do, comb their hair they, all of those kinds of things are still very important.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And they're very important in the world in which we live and how we're all going to function. And so I think Family Medicine Cares International, can play a key role in that wherever that other partner is. And however, it becomes the design of what we do, that it gets as much press, if you will, as all of the other things that we do. I mean, our educational piece gets huge information. It's always out there. It probably gets the bulk of the donations and funding and what have you, but along with that comes these other pieces. And I think they're critically important in that educational process as it relates to understanding who our patients are going to be, who and how we're going to be and interact when we're in different situations.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: And so I think those are important things to keep in mind. I can't tell you how much going into all of these different places has played a part in how I approach different situations, being in places like Russia and the UK and Africa, Australia. I mean, it's just very, very interesting in terms of how all of that I know has had a role in how I approach things and how I talk to people and those kinds of things. So I think that's one thing that I would hope the foundation would do as we move into the future. And again, I'll continue to participate and be involved. I had a gig and one other very happy invitation come out of what I've done with the foundation as it relates to research. And it'll be announced soon I guess, was I was invited and it has to be a senior scientist with the NRN by...\n\nPhyl Naragon: Congratulations. Oh my goodness.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: Yeah, that's what I said too.\n\nPhyl Naragon: Wonderful.\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: Are you sure? But yeah, I'll get to be a part of that again, because I've stayed engaged there too, continue to work with Dr. Jennifer Carol, with her work I've served as PI on some of the projects. And even when I've seen other opportunities that might've been something that the NRN could participate in, I've called her up and say, \"Hey, this is this, let me connect you with this person.\" So again, the foundation has done, it continues to do its work on me and keeping me engaged and involved. And so I thank the foundation for that and the people who are part of that foundation, in particular the new leadership has welcomed me and saying if you want to be apart and participate and what have you. So I still feel like I'm a part of the organization, even though I'm not on the board per se, so that's pretty much it.\n\nPhyl Naragon: That's great. Well, Dr. Evelyn Lewis and Clark, thank you so much for your time. I appre...\n\nEvelyn L. Lewis \u0026 Clark: You're more than welcome. Thank you for the time to do this. Hope we get.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://centerforthehistoryoffamilymedicine.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2376/collection_resources/162454/file/295884#t=2526.0,3181.28"}]}]}]}